Re: more propaganda

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From: Alexandre Oliva (oliva@dcc.unicamp.br)
Date: Wed Feb 10 1999 - 03:21:07 EST


On Feb 10, 1999, Godmar Back <gback@cs.utah.edu> wrote:

>>
>> On Feb 10, 1999, Godmar Back <gback@cs.utah.edu> wrote:

>>> But there's a better alternative: forget Sun, and use free
>>> Java implementations such as Kaffe and Jaafar. GNU volunteers
>>> are developing a thorough and powerful replacement for AWT,
>>> called GNU Classpath. (Free but less-powerful AWT replacements
>>> are already available.) We're now looking for volunteers to
>>> begin developing a replacement for JFC.

>> > Would you agree with this statement?

>> After s/AWT/Java Core API/, I do. It's a pity that RMS is so
>> mis-informed about Java that he confuses the terms to this point :-(

> Let me tell you the reason why I don't. Because it's almost like Microsoft
> saying: We'll be releasing Windows NT V.Vaporware.99. It will be thorough
> and powerful. Please don't bother investing any effort in alternatives or
> try to beat us.

He's not talking about GNU Classpath replacing the free
implementations, it's about forgetting Sun. Kaffe already works for
several applications, so he has a point here. The fact that GNU
Classpath is developing a GPLed perfect replacement for the Java Core
API is just a plus.

> I mean, read some of the GNU bulletins of the last 3 or 4 years where
> he discusses the Hurd and Linux, which finally ended up being called
> GNU/Linux. I hope it will be the same thing.

Do you mean you don't agree that there's so much GNU code needed for
the Linux kernel to be useful that the resulting operating system
should be called GNU/Linux? Come on, give credit where it's due!

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Alexandre Oliva  http://www.dcc.unicamp.br/~oliva  aoliva@{acm.org}
oliva@{dcc.unicamp.br,gnu.org,egcs.cygnus.com,samba.org}
Universidade Estadual de Campinas, SP, Brasil


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