From: Godmar Back (gback@cs.utah.edu)
Date: Sun Jan 10 1999 - 22:30:47 EST
Give us less pontification and more of a working build environment, please.
- Godmar
>
> On Jan 10, 1999, Archie Cobbs <archie@whistle.com> wrote:
>
> > Godmar Back writes:
>
> >> If you're not able to bring the cvs repository in a working state, I would
> >> like you to unroll all automake related changes by Wednesday. I am opposed
> >> to making Kaffe's build environment a playground for alpha-testing some
> >> half-baked tools.
>
> > A great idea that's half-baked is still only an idea.
>
> Neither automake nor libtool are half-baked tools. Some very large
> projects, such as Gnome and KDE, are using both, and have been using
> the for quite some time.
>
> The problem seems to have been that I decided to use some features of
> automake and libtool that aren't still widely available, but that have
> made the migration job much easier.
>
> If I were to compare automake with libtool, I'd say automake is much
> more stable than libtool, but its job is much easier, since there is a
> known subset of features from shells and makefiles that are portable,
> but there's no such set of features regarding shared libraries and
> dlopening. That's exactly what makes libtool hard to implement and so
> nice to use. And modules and libltdl, for example, have only recently
> been introduced in libtool, so we are, definitely, `boldly going where
> no man has been before' :-)
>
> But automake works and it is in no way connected with libtool, so,
> even if we decide to stop using libtool for a while, until it gets
> more stable WRT to modules and dlopening thereof, it would still be
> nice to keep an `--enable-libtool' configure option that we could use
> for libtool. Automake conditionals make it possible for us to
> maintain both in a reasonably simple way.
>
> --
> Alexandre Oliva http://www.dcc.unicamp.br/~oliva aoliva@{acm.org}
> oliva@{dcc.unicamp.br,gnu.org,egcs.cygnus.com,samba.org}
> Universidade Estadual de Campinas, SP, Brasil
>
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